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Author Topic: 2005 Jeep Liberty Renegade  (Read 10904 times)
Leeann
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« on: March 11, 2013, 07:22:18 PM »

So I ended up with this Liberty...for free because the 42RLE is toast. The NP231 is fine, however. So we're going to rebuild it instead of buying a jy tranny and popping it in. I do have to do some rust conversion as it's lived in Michigan its whole life (garage-kept, but still).

Pulling it onto the trailer with my cheapie HF portable winch (worked great!), then towing it home with my Astro - Michigan to Maryland.


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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 07:33:45 PM »

Took a couple pics after I got it home.


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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 07:36:01 PM »

And a couple more.


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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 07:39:50 PM »

Then I drained the transfer case in hopes that the reason it wouldn't move (except lurching forward sorta) was the transfer case had toasted itself...I found this.


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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 07:41:35 PM »

Pulled the rear driveshaft, unhooked the front at the transfer case, unhooked the transfer case shifter cable and gear sensor, checked out the rust I had to play with on the rear (and more underneath).


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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 07:43:07 PM »

Got the case out after much cussing (and online searching since the stupid FSM skipped a BUNCH of steps). It's not the transfer case...it does what its supposed to, when its supposed to, smoothly, without hesitation, slop or clunk.


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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 07:44:31 PM »

I had checked the tranny fluid after letting the Jeep run quite a while, in Park as required but after shifting through all the gears. The fluid still looked red, though not cherry red, and there was no gunk on the stick.

However, when I dropped the pan...


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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2013, 07:48:01 PM »

So I'll finish dropping the tranny on the next nice day. Good news is much of it is done in order to drop the transfer case...bad news is there's a lot more work in my future.

Before I started on the transfer case fun, I replaced the battery since it had a pretty good crack right under the – cable clamp that had corroded the living heck out of the clamp and it wouldn't hold more than a surface charge. I had a new clamp here, so we cleaned everything up with baking soda, put on the new clamp and I got a new battery. Pep girls is having a 20% off a single item sale, so the new Bosch 770 CCA battery with 3 year full/96 month prorated warranty was barely over $100 with tax. Other stores had a 700 CCA battery with a lesser warranty for $122 plus tax....

Oh, and it turned out to be the original Daimler/Chrysler battery installed in Oct 2004 when this was manufactured. Not so bad...


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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2013, 07:48:57 PM »

The driver's side fog light had been broken off for a few years, so I found an aftermarket replacement on eBay and installed that. Now I have to clean up the passenger-side lens  Roll Eyes


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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2013, 07:49:38 PM »

Last, I didn't want to advertise the dealer any more, plus the spare tire cover has a few tears in it. So I bought a new one Wink


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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2013, 07:59:01 PM »

Looks like you got plenty to keep you busy!  I assume you're gonna beef up the tranny a little.   Grin
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2013, 08:21:15 PM »

Yeah, you think?

I would, but there doesn't seem to be much available to beef up a 42RLE. I'm pretty sure, looking at the pan, that it's just burnt up clutch packs. Not much ferrous material in there. Mostly brass/copper looking stuff and what looks like aluminum powder (very fine and doesn't stick to the magnet).
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2013, 05:50:59 PM »

Got further along today.

Finally got the front end of the front driveshaft out. Took scraping the join with a small screwdriver, spraying the heck out of it with PB and pounding the heck out of the thing with the BFH while turning it (actually, I turned the driver's side rotor to turn it - was easier) to break it loose. Took a while, too - the rust had penetrated about 1/4" into the flange and locked it in place. I'll clean that up with sandpaper before reinstalling.

Then unbolted the y-pipe after pulling the front oxygen sensors. Unclipped the rear ones but left them in place. Dropped the y-pipe and slid it out of the way. Unclipped the 3 electrical connectors on the tranny, then popped the shift cable off the shift lever then out of the bracket. Removed the starter. Removed the tranny inspection cover/reinforcement plate thing and unbolted the torque converter.

Next up are the 2 tranny cooler lines. Couldn't do them today as I didn't have either a 15/16" or 24mm wrench, but I do now. Then start unbolting the bellhousing and bolt the tranny to the tranny jack, then slide it back and drop it. Oh, gotta move the support jack from the back of the tranny to the back of the engine - left it there when I pulled the transfer case.

Rebuild kit and cooler flush will be here Monday, along with a new transfer case position switch. Apparently that's a wear part that will go bad soon, probably right after I put the transfer case back up, and it's a pita to get to when the case is installed. So new it is. Have new spark plugs, air filter, PCV valve, oil & filter here already. Oh, and I have enough ATF+4 for the transfer case, but I need more for the tranny. Have gear oil for front and rear here already, too.

I will need to clean up the rotors before I reinstall the wheels as they're pretty danged rusty from sitting for 2 years. While the wheels are off, I'll do some serious rust abatement up front. While the tranny, exhaust and driveshaft are out I have some rust abatement to do on the motor, too. Some on the rear, but the rear lower control arms will be replaced by the dealer when she's up and running - there's a recall.

Hopefully the weather will hold and I can get the tranny dropped tomorrow. We have the use of a friend's garage if needed for the rebuild process.
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2013, 05:33:19 AM »

Have you tried the home brew rust solution?  Works better that anything I ever found yet.
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 08:33:21 AM »

I have both Loctite Extend in a bottle and POR-15. Both work really well for me.

The crap in a spray can has never worked for me.
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